Passenger Documents!?

I've done research on the family of August Hartman and he came to the United States with his family as Auguste. All that is, except his father, also named Auguste Hartman. August II came here on La Normandie from LeHavre, France in 1888. Can anyone help me find when his father may have came to New York? He came from Alsace-Lorraine, France which at the time was Elsass-Lotharingen, German Empire. He was born in 1856 which was during France's Second Empire. In case it helps, his family's names were:





Marie/Mary: Wife


André/Andrew: Son


Marguerite/Margaret: Daughter


Joseph: Son


Adolphe/Adolf: Son


Antoine/Anthony: Son


Nicolaus/Nichloas: Son


Peter: Son





Aldophe, Peter, and Nicolaus were all born in Buffalo, Ny. The rest were born in an unknown location in the Alsace and Lorraine (Alsace-Lorraine) region of France. (Or at the time Germany.)

Passenger Documents!?
Here's a link to the query of all Port of NY arrivals pre-Ellis Island for "August* Hartman*". I didn't narrow it too much because there were quite a few details missing (especially an approximation of his age).


http://www.castlegarden.org/quick_search...





If you find him, let me know and I'll help you try to find his exit visas from Alsace. Lorraine was much more French than Alsace, and it's a safe assumption that you can start by focusing your search in Alsace. Adolphe is the dead giveaway.





The other option is tell me where they were living by 1900 and we'll see if we can find the year of immigration on the 1900 census. Then we can narrow it down and figure out which films you'll need to order from the LDS.
Reply:then?
Reply:I located a possible for you...on ancestry.com


There is an August HARTMAN, a farmer from Germany, who arrived in Steerage on the ship "State of Pennsylvania" on 26 December 1881 in NY. He was born about 1857.





The ship had stopped at Glasgow, Scotland and Larne, Ireland - I don't know when August HARTMAN boarded the ship, though.





There is no more information, but I will contact you privately to see if you want that ship manifest.





If they lived in PA, this may be a clue. In 1883 there was an August HARTMAN who began filing Naturalization Papers. This is just an index and it says no more other than the info. will be on page 45.





Place: Allegheny CO., Pennsylvania


Source Publication Code: 9700


Primary Immigrant: Hartman, August


Source Bibliography: WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY, Pittsburgh, compilers. A List of Immigrants Who Applied for Naturalization Papers in the District Courts of Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. Pittsburgh: the society. Vol. 5, 1880-1887. 1981. 141p


Page 45.








I hope this helps.